On Politics

First of all, I’m a Southerner. That is, State’s Rights where applicable, theocracy in all cases, right-leaning, decentralization of government, and above all, a postmillenialist.

Because Christ is not coming back to rule earth (for eternity) until the Great Commission has been fulfilled (every knee shall bow and the knowledge of the Lord shall cover the earth), Christians need to be active in politics. Gary North points out that American (mostly) “rapture fever” renders Christians politically impotent. If Christ is coming back any second, why bother? Besides, that steps on too many toes. Americanism adheres more-so to retreatist pietism, in his words. This accomplishes nothing. The pagan doesn’t even bother to acknowledge this group.

Then you have the group that believes that government is the way to reform. Get Ron Paul in the White House and all our problems will magically disappear.  Outlaw abortion. Ban gay marriages. Homeschool or nothing.

Not that any of those things are wrong, of course. Abortion is a sin, as is homosexuality. Homeschooling may have benefits (and maybe not). The government certainly needs to curtail its abuse of power.

 What this camp fails to realize (and this bothers me a good deal) is that politics is not the answer to our problems. You can picket in front of the abortion clinic all year, but if America is not convicted by God that it’s a sin, no laws will be passed. You can’t pass the law and expect everyone to follow blindly. In fact, you couldn’t get the law passed in the first place. The correct way is to reform the people themselves. Make them realize that murdering babies is wrong. Then they pass the law. Not before.

Even a Christian president won’t change much, especially under the pseudo-republic of America. He’s a figurehead anyway.

So how do we change America (or any other nation)? We realize that government is an institution for the management of a nation, punishment of the wicked, and rewards to the righteous, and subject to God’s law in all cases (the Founding Fathers, by the way, supported theocracy). So of course we want Christians in office. Roger Williams shocked early America when he had the nerve to suggest that an unbeliever could hold public office in America. How dare he!

I believe that we cannot change an institution, particularly one hostile to the Gospel (America’s current administration) from the top down. Would it be nice if we had a strong believing President who was true to his word? Yes. Would it change anything? No. Constantine declared the Roman Empire to be a Christian nation, but that didn’t make a bit of difference. It was the people who made that a reality. Granted, many came to the Light through Constantine’s work, and we bless God for him, but he did not truly turn the Roman Empire Christian. It’s people.

The Spirit rarely works through the powerful. He prefers to move through the weak. He is a still small voice. God uses weak vessels to accomplish great things.

When the hearts of the people turn to Christ, then we can legitimately call that nation a Christian nation. We cannot change a nation’s heart by passing laws. We can’t get those laws passed anyway.

By no means think that I’m advocating political apathy. Get into law school. Get Christian influences back into the courtrooms and the classrooms and the Senate floor. The Cultural Mandate demands that we do this. All of creation subject to Christ.

I’m just concerned that perhaps we’re putting too much faith in changing the world by means of politics. You’ll see this especially in the Libertarian party. While I agree with almost all of their positions, I hesitate to be that fanatic about something like this, because of reasons roughly traced above.

As an aside, one of the great things about Ron Paul being so extremely right-wing is that he has tipped the balance, as it were, back towards conservatism as regards the casual voter (Dr. Jim Jordan’s observation).

 In short, I suppose I am not so much for reform of the American government as I am for replacement of it entirely, with something better (although I realize this would be a baptism by fire). I do not advocate revolt, but I do think that God is about to do something to America (when a nation openly tolerates homosexuality, they are inevitably destroyed). That could happen in 10 years or it could happen in 1000 years. But I am certain that, given the current trends, Christianity will not survive under the current system of government.

I said “current.” I think it’ll change. To what? I don’t know. I don’t even know if this line of thinking is correct (obviously I think so, because I’m posting it). I’d love to hear some feedback on this (David, I’m looking at you).

In the long run, going to Church faithfully and singing the Psalms in a covenant renewal service makes much more difference than who you vote for. That’s all I’m really trying to say.



  1. David Henry

    I started reading this and said “I should comment.” Then I said “no, I shouldn’t.” Then my name popped out of nowhere. Be assured, I shall do so, but first, sleep. I am getting up early tomorrow. If I don’t say anything by the end of the day, post horrible things on my wall.

  2. No

    Tbh, govnt needs to be downsize in some areas, but i personally think the govnt needs more input in the Economic sector IE. Roosevelt created an agency that would monitor farms and control production and put limits so the farming sector would not cripple itself. In that aspect i think the govnt needs strengthening. If we had agency to monitor everything the banks wouldn’t have been allowed to do risky lones therefor they wont bust and need bailouts. And it would be the same for all economic things like it. A professor told me that one of the downfalls of a free market/capitalism economy is that companys are prone to over produce and when they do it will cause a crash in the economy. By having agencies monitor it overproduction wont be a problem, therefor large crashes like great depression and this one we just pass can be avoided.

    Other then that, i agree pretty much with everything else you said.

    • MadDawg Scientist

      The problem is that a strong centralized government almost always becomes socialist and that kills freedom. A free market has been shown to work over and over. Supply and demand, the basic principles of economics, keep companies in check. Of course huge companies will fail if not subsidized by the government.

      But that boils down to what you think the role of government should be, and how much power it has. Essentially, when a government thinks it’s God, it’s too powerful.

      But if men will not serve God, they will serve tyrants, so maybe we deserve it.

      Thanks for the read and comment!

  3. MadDawg Scientist

    Another way to state my position is that it doesn’t ruffle me when bad things happen in the government. Like a Muslim, non-American being elected President. Do I like it? No. Would I prefer something different? Absolutely. Is it the end of the world? By no means.
    We’re always going to be persecuted, but the postmillenial vision means that we’ll win in the end. So I don’t worry that much about bad things that happen, because they’ll all be worked for good in the end.

    Some people get waaaay worked up about little things. Obama’s birth certificate? Not a big deal to me. I don’t think he’s an American citizen, and there’s absolutely something shady going on. In law school, he never went to class and copied homework off others.
    While I do think things like this are a threat to the gospel, it’s gonna get better no matter how much crap they throw at us. We need to see that a little more. When your Constitutionalist candidate doesn’t get elected, life goes on.

    It’s sad how much I can talk about not caring. Haha.

  4. David Henry

    Well, I put it off, forgot, remembered, and here tis. I wrote this as I went through a second time. It’s kinda huge.

    Regardind state’s rights: Amen. We were formed as a confederacy. A tight one, but that’s what we were, and we’re bound by that same constitution.
    Regarding “rapture fever”: Far from it. That same dispensationalist bent has produced most of America’s conservative Christian politicians, who have had quite an impact since the seventies. The difference is their theology of the relationship between faith and government. They don’t believe in forcing people to become Christian, so they won’t establish it. I mostly agree with this, but only because there’s variations. Some people lean towards no religion in politics period on a Christian basis, most lean towards the assumption that we’re Christian with plenty of allowance for other views. I’m more of the latter. Note: Rapture fever can have the reverse effect: Win now to stave off the rise of the anti-Christ. Plus, many Americans, and even more Southerners have that same go-down-fighting mentality we’ve always had. But I digress.

    Regarding the other camp: Mostly heck yes, with the caveat that our political actions are often the works that express our repentance or lack thereof.

    Regarding presidents: Definitely not a figurehead. Had as much power as the English king from the get-go and has acquired more along the way. See Lincoln.

    Regarding theocracy: It would be interesting to discuss the term sometime.

    Regarding bottom-up change: Amen.

    Regarding your speculation: Amen. In our lifetime. I think God will vindicate the South for the stand we took, but probably not through us directly, so our head doesn’t get big. Watch Alaska, Idaho, Montana, and Wyoming for very Southern stands beginning a chain reaction that could change how things are.
    Things that would be interesting to discuss: Said speculations and the term “theocracy.”
    Also, Obama is not a Muslim at this time.


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